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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0" version="2.0"><channel><title>The Vergecast</title><link>https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast</link><description>The Vergecast is the flagship daily podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And Monday through Thursday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.&amp;nbsp;</description><atom:link href="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/feed.xml" rel="self" /><docs>http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification</docs><generator>python-feedgen</generator><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 17:42:09 +0000</lastBuildDate><itunes:author>The Verge</itunes:author><itunes:category text="Technology" /><itunes:image href="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/cover-custom.png" /><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:owner><itunes:name>The Verge</itunes:name><itunes:email>admin@christenson.cloud</itunes:email></itunes:owner><item><title>Pixel 11 and Pixel Watch 5: Our first impressions | The Vergecast Livestream</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Google just showed off its next generation of hardware, including the Pixel 11, Pixel 11 Pro, Pixel 11 Pro XL, and Pixel11 Pro Fold. (Whew, those names.) There's also the new Pixel Watch 5, the Pixel Tag, and a bunch of really interesting new ideas about smartphone cameras, GPS, and wellness. David Pierce, Nilay Patel, and Victoria Song went live to talk about the state of Google's hardware, and whether there's anything worth upgrading for this year.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/978712/google-pixel-11-event-everything-announced"&gt;The 7 biggest announcements of Google’s Pixel 11 launch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="mailto:vergecast@theverge.com"&gt;vergecast@theverge.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;or call us at 866-VERGE11.&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/978712/google-pixel-11-event-everything-announced"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">403c726e65100ee4956eae75b045e1de99166fe3072eb3ebc520adc9bede045e</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20260812-195500-Vergecast.mp3" length="73303083" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 19:55:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>3657</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20260812-195500-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20260812-195500-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>Should you let a robot mow your lawn?</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Is it time to fire the neighbor kid and hire a robot lawnmower instead? Last year I wrote that “in all but a few scenarios, robot lawnmowers still aren’t worth your money,” but there’s a new class of Roombas with razor blades ready to tackle bumpy terrain and dodge crazy chickens. Realtor and smart home reviewer Brandon Doyle joins me to talk about our experiences with 2026’s newest robotic mowers and to let you know if they're finally worth all that money.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/979231/apple-base-iphone-18-launch-delayed"&gt;It looks like Apple’s iPhone 18 really will skip the fall launch this year&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/979339/flock-ceo-audits-data-retention"&gt;Flock CEO: ‘We got this one wrong’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/979295/petlibro-outage-smart-pet-feeders"&gt;Cats and dogs are missing meals after a popular smart feeder went down&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/978664/robot-lawnmower-review-segway-mammotion-husqvarna-roborock-dreame?preview=true&amp;amp;vm_preview=6538f5d4025d0d250428c18afb4f6979"&gt;I finally found a robot lawnmower I’d trust with my yard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/reviews/661136/robot-lawnmowers-husqvarna-navimow-mammotion-dreame-head-to-head"&gt;I put four robot lawnmowers through a brutal backyard battle — and only one person got injured&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/925696/yarbo-robot-lawn-mower-hack-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt"&gt;A hacker ran me over with a robot lawn mower&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/972312/us-robot-ban-sweep-up-chinese-vacuums"&gt;The US government just banned Roombas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emU2S2zKisw"&gt;5 Robot Mowers, 90 Days, 1 Winner — My 2026 Picks (and One to Avoid)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/subscribe"&gt;Subscribe to The Verge&lt;/a&gt; for unlimited access to &lt;a href="http://theverge.com/"&gt;theverge.com&lt;/a&gt;, subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and our &lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/bulletin/795051/verge-podcast-ad-free-set-up-how-to"&gt;ad-free podcast feed&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">3472a0421699ebec87953571f084c59153fb28561b97fa731f7fea18ef3731af</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20260813-200400-Vergecast.mp3" length="52420912" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2026 20:04:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>2178</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20260813-200400-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20260813-200400-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>Mark Zuckerberg has an Instagzam</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Have you &lt;em&gt;seen &lt;/em&gt;Instagram's new logo? Meta debuted it right before we started recording, so of course David and Nilay needed to talk about it. Then, the hosts turn to Mark Zuckerberg's 6,500-word missive on the future of AI, and the problem with his idea that giving AI to everyone will fix everything. After that, it's time for Claude watermarks, Spotify AI personas, Brendan Carr, Flock, and much more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/979583/this-is-instagrams-new-logo"&gt;⁠This is Instagram’s new logo | The Verge⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell-021109.pdf"&gt;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell-021109.pdf⁠⁠"&gt;The Pepsi Universe PDF&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://about.fb.com/news/2026/08/the-future-is-for-everyone/"&gt;⁠The Future is for Everyone⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/977395/meta-mark-zuckerberg-superintelligent-ai-ramble"&gt;⁠Four takeaways from Mark Zuckerberg’s massive AI manifesto&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/977623/mark-zuckerberg-ai-manifesto-dim-vision"&gt;⁠Mark Zuckerberg doesn’t understand how to live&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.meta.com/design-at-meta/blog/"&gt;⁠https://www.meta.com/design-at-meta/blog/⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/977823/anthropic-claude-ai-watermarks-c2pa-text-images"&gt;⁠Claude will apply invisible watermarks to AI text and images&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/979392/twitch-ai-training-nobody-would-opt-in"&gt;⁠‘If it was opt-in, nobody would opt in.’&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/977815/spotify-ai-persona-label-recommendations"&gt;⁠Spotify says it won’t recommend music from ‘AI Personas’&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/977921/apple-reference-image-iphone-metadata"&gt;⁠Apple could help you prove your iPhone photos aren’t deepfakes | The Verge⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/978982/daddario-guitar-ai-music-suno"&gt;⁠Guitar company D’Addario admits that AI music was used in a promotional video | The Verge⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/974265/fender-ceo-bud-cole-ai-music"&gt;⁠Fender’s CEO seems to think your bandmates are just analog AI | The Verge⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://variety.com/2026/music/news/suno-unveils-download-caps-for-free-paid-tiers-generator-1236831589/"&gt;⁠Suno Unveils Download Song Caps for Free, Paid Tiers⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/978783/trump-fcc-nominee-quorum"&gt;⁠Brendan Carr is one firing away from an unchecked FCC⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/streaming/977474/youtube-partner-program-new-requirements"&gt;⁠YouTube is making it harder to earn money on YouTube&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/979339/flock-ceo-audits-data-retention"&gt;⁠Flock CEO: ‘We got this one wrong’&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/977269/google-play-store-third-party-app-aptoide-games"&gt;⁠The first rival Android app store just arrived in the US Play Store&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/978113/chatgpt-gemini-1-billion-users"&gt;⁠ChatGPT and Gemini both just passed 1 billion users&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/979415/the-sub-100-phone-market-is-disappearing"&gt;⁠The sub-$100 phone market is disappearing.&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;0:00&amp;nbsp;Welcome and Parental Leave Announcement&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;00:43&amp;nbsp;Instagram Redesigns Their Logo&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:04&amp;nbsp;Why Companies Change Logos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;03:37&amp;nbsp;Meta Design Blog Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;07:22&amp;nbsp;The 2008 Pepsi Universe Presentation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;09:41&amp;nbsp;Blanding&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;10:37&amp;nbsp;Zuck’s AI Manifesto&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;13:29&amp;nbsp;Collective Action Problems&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;18:49&amp;nbsp;Superintelligence for All&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;20:57&amp;nbsp;Cybersecurity and AI Risks&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;22:22&amp;nbsp;China Chips and Distillation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;27:48&amp;nbsp;Write the Law Challenge&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;32:30&amp;nbsp;Claude Text Watermarking&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;35:33&amp;nbsp;How The Watermark Works&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;39:34&amp;nbsp;Limits And Evasion Risks&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;41:54&amp;nbsp;Apple Marks Real Photos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;46:03&amp;nbsp;Provenance Standards Fail&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;46:58&amp;nbsp;AI Music Backlash&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;49:39&amp;nbsp;Fender CEO AI Scandal&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;53:08&amp;nbsp;Where AI Fits In Music&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;59:13&amp;nbsp;Twitch Opt Out Training&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:01:35&amp;nbsp;The Lightning Round&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:02:55&amp;nbsp;Brendan Carr is a Dummy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:04:55&amp;nbsp;Bans Don’t Work&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:05:56&amp;nbsp;Made in America Assembly&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:10:19&amp;nbsp;Gemini Claims a Billion Users&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:15:40&amp;nbsp;YouTube Partner Paywall&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:20:56&amp;nbsp;RAMageddon Cheap Phones&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:23:52&amp;nbsp;Flock Camera Backlash&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:27:19&amp;nbsp;Goodbyes and Plugs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a6644bfe64be7bdb96f1d3b78d3d6d907d407ed47b854d86b99b7986ee0cfdbf</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20260814-161500-Vergecast.mp3" length="128347414" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2026 16:15:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>5339</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20260814-161500-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20260814-161500-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>Pixel 11 gets in on the digicam trend</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Smart phone cameras have been getting better and better at capturing flawless, true-to-life images. But is that what the people really want?&lt;br&gt;David Imel joins Nilay Patel and Jake Kastrenakes to talk through the Pixel 11's Camera Looks. They're Google's nod to the trend of retro digital and analogue cameras, and alter how a photo is processed on the sensor level. At the same time, its super zoom is still hallucinating text and making stuff up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then it's a supersized Brendan Carr is a Dummy, with increasingly infuriating tales of how Brendan Carr is being a Dummy, culminating in the FCC's quest to make sure your internet connection remains slow.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plus, we talk through the confounding AirPods camera leak, the Fairphone, and YouTube's new method for counting views.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/978084/google-camera-looks-interview-computational-photography"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Google is making the Pixel cameras better by making them worse&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theguardian.com/media/ng-interactive/2026/aug/19/brendan-carr-fcc-white-house-exclusive"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Revealed: FCC chair Brendan Carr’s close coordination with White House and rightwing media&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/streaming/981392/abc-fcc-broadcast-license-lawsuit"&gt;&lt;u&gt;ABC sues the FCC over Trump and Carr’s campaign of threats&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/08/fcc-abolishes-gigabit-speed-goal-suggesting-it-is-unfair-to-slower-technologies/"&gt;&lt;u&gt;FCC abolishes gigabit speed goal, suggesting it is unfair to slower technologies&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/981326/apple-airpods-with-cameras-demo-video-leak"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Apple’s camera-equipped AirPods appear in leaked video&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/982414/meta-glasses-work-surveillance-labor-security"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Meta glasses are a workplace menace&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/982587/apple-reportedly-wont-launch-airpods-with-cameras-until-next-year"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Apple reportedly won’t launch AirPods with cameras until next year.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/980876/fairphone-6-plus-us-t-mobile-amazon"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Fairphone’s latest repairable phone is going on sale in the US&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/streaming/981105/youtube-video-view-counting-update"&gt;&lt;u&gt;YouTube is changing how it counts views to give the numbers a boost&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/streaming/982534/youtube-is-reportedly-offering-channels-millions-of-dollars-not-to-cross-post-videos-on-netflix"&gt;YouTube is reportedly offering channels “millions of dollars” not to cross-post videos on Netflix.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re also on video!&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL39u5ZEfYDEO5PaNRWyqloGY6zzJ1fjBa"&gt; &lt;u&gt;Check us out on YouTube.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">31aa6d3cbcbc32f5a7f98af819e9ae6e354a6648d345d1381fa811977d558156</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20260821-144800-Vergecast.mp3" length="114854963" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 14:48:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>4777</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20260821-144800-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20260821-144800-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>The iPhone Fold could make concerts even worse</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week Apple announced a Mac Mini made for AI and a Mac Studio made for AI, both with faster M6 and M5 Pro chips made for AI. But that's all an amuse-bouche to Sept. 9's (expected) main course: the long-awaited folding iPhone. Nilay Patel, Jake Kastrenakes, and David Imel run through all of this week's Apple news, including the most important story: a surprise discount on the legendary polishing cloth.&lt;br&gt;Then, they react to Meta's settlement in its latest kids safety trial, geek out about Grand Theft Auto VI with the Hype Desk's Ashley Esqueda, check out the Pokémon Fitbit, and decide if Nvidia just saved the global economy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/08/14/2026-16590/fcc-to-review-e-rate-program-to-ensure-congresss-vision"&gt;⁠File a comment with the FCC⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/983407/apple-iphone-launch-event-2026-date"&gt;⁠Apple announces September iPhone launch event⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/984118/apple-m6-m5-ultra-chip-mac-mini-studio"&gt;⁠Apple’s new M6 chip gets more cores and more AI compute⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/984207/apple-mac-studio-m5-max-ultra-price-specs-launch"&gt;⁠Apple launches new Mac Studios with its ‘most powerful chip ever’ — the M5 Ultra⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/984190/apple-mac-mini-m6-m5-pro-price-specs"&gt;⁠Apple’s new Mac Mini has fresh M6 and M5 Pro chip offerings — and higher prices⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/984353/apple-polishing-cloth-cheaper"&gt;⁠Apple’s ‘new’ polishing cloth is the same except $10 cheaper⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/985032/meta-state-ag-kids-online-safety-settlement"&gt;⁠Meta agrees to heavy restrictions on teen users in major lawsuit settlement⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/985183/meta-is-planning-an-ad-blitz-urging-tiktok-and-youtube-to-follow-its-lead"&gt;⁠Meta is planning an ad blitz urging TikTok and YouTube to follow its lead.⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/985329/instagram-facebook-meta-settlement-changes"&gt;⁠All the ways Instagram and Facebook are changing for teens⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/games/984959/gta-vi-leaks-rockstar-games-official-statement-heartbreaking"&gt;⁠Rockstar finally responds to ‘heartbreaking’ GTA 6 leaks⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.fierce-network.com/broadband/fcc-opens-comments-e-rate-program-gets-attacked-court"&gt;⁠Fierce Network: FCC opens comments on E-Rate as the program gets attacked in court⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/985387/nvidia-hundred-billion-dollar-quarterly-revenue"&gt;⁠Nvidia is about to be a hundred-billion-dollar-a-quarter company⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/games/985364/panic-is-passing-on-playdate-tariff-refunds-to-customers"&gt;⁠Panic is passing Playdate tariff refunds on to customers.⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;0:00 Welcome to the Vergecast&lt;br&gt;01:26 Apple Mac AI Hype&lt;br&gt;02:26 Mac Mini Agent Craze&lt;br&gt;06:32 Mac Studio vs Nvidia&lt;br&gt;11:43 Price Hikes and Cloth&lt;br&gt;17:01 iPhone Event Invite&lt;br&gt;17:38 iPhone Fold Debate&lt;br&gt;21:30 Camera Crash Out&lt;br&gt;26:57 Meta Settlement Breakdown&lt;br&gt;28:59 First Amendment Fallout&lt;br&gt;36:59 Age Verification Push&lt;br&gt;39:30 Filter Rules and Loopholes&lt;br&gt;44:11 Will Teens Just Switch Apps&lt;br&gt;45:20 Reels Versus Shorts&lt;br&gt;46:35 Government Next Steps&lt;br&gt;47:39 Break And Reset&lt;br&gt;47:50 GTA VI Showcase&lt;br&gt;54:29 Leaks And Spoilers&lt;br&gt;57:12 Can GTA Save Games&lt;br&gt;01:00:51 GTA Online Money&lt;br&gt;01:02:04 Brendan Carr is a Dummy&lt;br&gt;01:03:45 E Rate Fight&lt;br&gt;01:08:46 Nvidia Earnings Hype&lt;br&gt;01:17:50 Pokemon Sleep Fitbit&lt;br&gt;01:22:41 Waymo Versus Tesla&lt;br&gt;01:28:34 Decoder And Goodbye&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">6450804d3547b4544158525411a414d505da781d6d264c7b272e857806f08304</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20260828-151000-Vergecast.mp3" length="133002763" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2026 15:10:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>5532</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20260828-151000-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20260828-151000-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>AGI is whatever you want it to be</title><description>&lt;p&gt;OpenAI announced its next big model, GPT-6 Astra, and also, by the way, that AGI is here now.&lt;br&gt;Today on The Vergecast, we've got an all-star panel to break down the news of the week.&lt;br&gt;First, senior AI reporter Hayden Field joins us to talk about our supposed AGI era and Nvidia's acquisition of Hugging Face. Then, our friend Joanna Stern pops in to talk about new Apple CEO John Ternus, old Apple CEO Tim Cook, and to, most importantly, speculate on the format of next week's Apple keynote.&lt;br&gt;We wrap things up with a super-special lightning round from the IFA electronics show in Berlin. Senior reviewer Jennifer Pattison Tuohy and editor Dominic Preston each pick out the five most interesting gadgets they saw at the show.&lt;br&gt;And two more things: Vergecast producer Travis Larchuk pops in to tell his tale of identity theft woe and warn you that he isn't the one DMing you on Twitter to ask you to be on The Vergecast. Plus, Brendan Carr is a dummy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/989601/openai-gpt-6-astra-release"&gt;OpenAI’s next big AI model has ‘entered the AGI era’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/988334/openai-astra-ai-monitoring-safety"&gt;Researchers fear safety disaster ahead of OpenAI’s Astra release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/987695/openai-astra-unreleased-model-cybersecurity-delay"&gt;OpenAI delayed its new model’s development after the Hugging Face hack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/985474/nvidia-buying-hugging-face-deal"&gt;Nvidia is buying Hugging Face for almost $13 billion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/987583/apple-john-ternus-staff-memo"&gt;John Ternus sends first memo as Apple CEO teasing a ‘huge launch next week’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/986869/apple-phil-schiller-stepping-down"&gt;Phil Schiller is leaving his biggest jobs at Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/964714/siri-ai-public-beta-preview-ios-27-hands-on"&gt;Siri AI is already changing how I use my iPhone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/986178/ifa-2026-the-biggest-tech-and-gadget-announcements"&gt;IFA 2026: the biggest tech and gadget announcements&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/989467/this-might-be-the-fanciest-toothbrush-launch-ever"&gt;This might be the fanciest toothbrush launch ever.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/987936/anker-eufy-mindbase-ai-security-camera-system-matter"&gt;Anker’s new MindBase is an AI-powered brain for your smart home&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/990006/this-nas-company-wants-to-run-your-local-smart-home"&gt;This NAS company wants to run your local smart home&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/989014/philips-hue-liane-360-rope-lights-smart-lighting-interior-design"&gt;I want to wrap myself in Hue’s new Liane rope lights&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/987462/homey-lg-smart-portal-smart-home-controller-price-specs-release-date"&gt;Homey just made the smart home controller I hoped Apple would&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/987756/humanoid-robot-butlers-lg-cloid-smart-home-ifa"&gt;The robot butler dream doesn’t have legs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/989118/heres-xiaomis-wide-18-fold"&gt;Here’s Xiaomi’s wide 18 Fold&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/985009/tecno-bezelless-concept-phone-ifa"&gt;I held the first truly bezel-free phone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/games/988029/acer-project-dualplay-mini-concept-gaming-handheld-keyboard-ifa"&gt;Acer’s new concept hardware is a gaming handheld with a keyboard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/988765/lenovo-ideapad-vibe-laptop-macbook-neo-competitor-ifa-colors-price-specs"&gt;Lenovo’s new MacBook Neo competitor comes in two sizes and seven colors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/988733/packard-bell-is-back-and-more-colorful-than-ever"&gt;Packard Bell is back, and more colorful than ever.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;0:00 Welcome&lt;br&gt;00:46 Fake Travis warning&lt;br&gt;03:01 OpenAI's Astra model&lt;br&gt;05:45 Safeguards and delays&lt;br&gt;08:55 Opaque recurrence fears&lt;br&gt;13:08 What Astra does well&lt;br&gt;18:08 Access tiers and rollout&lt;br&gt;19:53 Nvidia buys Hugging Face&lt;br&gt;23:04 Is this really AGI&lt;br&gt;26:28 AGI vibes and Microsoft clause&lt;br&gt;32:17 Apple event preview&lt;br&gt;33:41 Ternus keynote politics&lt;br&gt;39:43 Keynote Vibes Shift&lt;br&gt;40:23 Tim Cook Era Review&lt;br&gt;44:56 Services And Fees Machine&lt;br&gt;47:15 Phil Schiller Steps Back&lt;br&gt;49:52 Event Predictions Fold And AI&lt;br&gt;55:43 Siri AI Real Use Cases&lt;br&gt;58:32 Smart Home Display Rumors&lt;br&gt;59:47 Bets And Keynote Structure&lt;br&gt;01:05:19 Brendan Carr Is A Dummy&lt;br&gt;01:09:23 IFA Lightning Round&lt;br&gt;01:10:49 Philips Hue Smart Lighting&lt;br&gt;01:11:03 Hue Rope Light Rave&lt;br&gt;01:11:44 Sticker Shock Pricing&lt;br&gt;01:13:03 Xiaomi Wide Foldable&lt;br&gt;01:15:43 Dyson Camera Toothbrush&lt;br&gt;01:20:31 Tecno Bezelless Concept&lt;br&gt;01:22:42 Local AI Smart Home Hub&lt;br&gt;01:27:09 MacBook Neo Clones&lt;br&gt;01:29:35 Homey Dial Controller&lt;br&gt;01:33:39 Acer DualPlay Handheld&lt;br&gt;01:36:19 Dreame Humanoid Robot&lt;br&gt;01:39:44 Packard Bell Revival&lt;br&gt;01:42:17 Wrap Up And Credits&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">cc7cc3a7ec93fdb47c23c4a3ac470ee1234e68148f5e25736b5567725a461ad2</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20260904-161600-Vergecast.mp3" length="156551698" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 16:16:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>6512</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20260904-161600-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20260904-161600-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>We unfolded the iPhone Duo</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Apple did the one more thing: This week it announced its much-anticipated folding phone. It also announced some surprising and controversial new AI features for Apple Watch, including "Live Rewind," which gives the user a text transcript of the last 15 seconds of real life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;On today's Vergecast, Allison Johnson and Vee Song report back from California after having more hands-on time with Apple's new devices. Plus, Nilay Patel and David Imel take another swing at discussing Mac Minis and local LLMs with AI researcher CJ Trowbridge. Finally, Allison and Jake tackle some non-Apple stories in the truly rapid-fire thunder round.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/986400/apple-iphone-18-pro-max-hands-on-impressions-september-2026-event"&gt;iPhone 18 Pro and Pro Max: Our first hands-on impressions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/993155/variable-aperture-iphone-18-pro-photography"&gt;The variable aperture isn’t the cool part of the iPhone 18 Pro’s camera&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/991236/iphone-foldable-hands-on-first-impressions"&gt;Hands-on with the foldable iPhone Duo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/992568/apple-watch-hands-on-series-12-ultra-4"&gt;Hands-on with the new Apple Watch Series 12 and Apple Watch Ultra 4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/991812/apple-watch-series-12-announcement"&gt;Apple Watch Series 12 has an always-on Siri that makes AI recaps of your day&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/992919/apple-siri-ai-audio-intelligence-privacy"&gt;Read the Apple document explaining how new listening features still protect your privacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/993263/where-does-openai-get-mathematics-training-data"&gt;Mathematicians want proof OpenAI didn’t use their work&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/992953/openai-math-millennium-prize-navier-stokes"&gt;OpenAI’s sly mathematical breakthrough sends a chill through academia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/991710/openai-navier-stokes-solution"&gt;Drama swirls around OpenAI’s legendary mathematical milestone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/993242/trump-phone-t1-price-hike"&gt;The Trump phone just got a $250 price hike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/990687/sony-announces-xm4c-headphones"&gt;Six years later, Sony revisits its legendary XM4 headphones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/991658/hori-legend-zelda-ocarina-of-time-electronic-instrument"&gt;Hori’s electronic Ocarina of Time requires no musical talent.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="mailto:vergecast@theverge.com"&gt;vergecast@theverge.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;or call us at 866-VERGE11.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">49c7ab7035c1d396426c102cfdc87372abfacbe86358b88ead87d3655a550636</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20260911-155100-Vergecast.mp3" length="95377869" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 15:51:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>4760</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20260911-155100-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20260911-155100-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>The real story of the iPhone 18 Pro's camera</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week's iPhone 18 Pro discourse made aperture a priority, but today on Vergecast we zoom out to talk about the state of smart phone photography at large. Executive editor Jake Kastrenakes, guest host David Imel and senior reviewer Allison Johnson get into manual controls, "buckets of photons," and Apple and Google's strategies on how to prove a picture you took is real. Then, senior AI reporter Hayden Field returns to The Vergecast, just a few new revelations of misaligned behavior since her last appearance. She breaks down who's calling for a slowdown, who's full steam ahead, and the prisoner's dilemma facing the industry. And in the lightning round, we cover robotaxis calling the cops, the Boox Palma 3 e-reader, and the latest crop of intentionally low-quality digital cameras.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/vtAbRViuHog?si=VKa7tNau1wKZqn47"&gt;Version History: Oregon trail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EE7D3XgaYw"&gt;iPhone 18 Pro review: it's all about the manual controls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/993155/variable-aperture-iphone-18-pro-photography"&gt;The variable aperture isn’t the cool part of the iPhone 18 Pro’s camera&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/992766/apple-iphone-18-pro-reference-image"&gt;Apple’s new iPhone camera mode promises to prove your photo isn’t AI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/996563/ai-safety-research-metr-redwood-openai-anthropic"&gt;Inside the suddenly explosive world of AI safety&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/transportation/996863/robotaxi-waymo-police-privacy-surveillance"&gt;Your robotaxi might be a narc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/transportation/994405/waymo-pulls-over-calls-cops-on-riders-with-a-ghost-gun"&gt;Waymo pulls over, calls cops on riders with a ghost gun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/995826/boox-palma-3-e-ink-reader-pocket-smartphone-android-16"&gt;The Boox Palma 3 gets stylus support and a sleek redesign&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/996453/camp-snap-110d-digital-camera-retro-horizontal-kodak-100-film"&gt;Camp Snap’s 110D gives slim retro film cameras a digital upgrade&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/995399/fujifilm-instax-pal-2-digital-camera-wireless-autofocus-face-detection"&gt;Fujifilm’s Instax Pal 2 is a tiny digital camera that may not disappoint&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;0:00 Welcome and lineup&lt;br&gt;00:30 Version History returns&lt;br&gt;02:08 Oregon Trail livestream plug&lt;br&gt;02:36 Apple camera geekout&lt;br&gt;02:59 Apple's new CEO Emmy moment&lt;br&gt;05:23 iPhone 18 Pro upgrades&lt;br&gt;08:33 Pro controls usability&lt;br&gt;11:46 RAW vs ProRAW explained&lt;br&gt;14:35 Signal to noise deep dive&lt;br&gt;21:35 Photographic styles debate&lt;br&gt;25:25 Reference Image authenticity&lt;br&gt;32:40 What we want next&lt;br&gt;41:40 AI safety drama begins&lt;br&gt;42:36 AI Safety Freakout&lt;br&gt;46:10 Liability And Regulation&lt;br&gt;51:34 China Race Narrative&lt;br&gt;54:43 Pace The Frontier Plan&lt;br&gt;55:54 Auditors Inside Labs&lt;br&gt;01:00:22 Prisoners Dilemma Problem&lt;br&gt;01:04:38 Accountability Dead End&lt;br&gt;01:08:45 Waymo Calls The Cops&lt;br&gt;01:14:56 The E Reader Race&lt;br&gt;01:19:56 Tiny Retro Cameras&lt;br&gt;01:26:32 Wrap Up And Goodbye&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ece62056fa8edcc706b8cf0315a777c6b74783b2383f3ae3f9325c7f28f32176</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20260918-161300-Vergecast.mp3" length="133842456" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 16:13:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>5568</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20260918-161300-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20260918-161300-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>Phones don't have lights</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Meta's Muse AI agent is cute (sometimes &lt;a href="https://x.com/alexandr_wang/status/2102424404584214870?s=20"&gt;caked-up&lt;/a&gt;) and it performs well as a productivity tool. And, if you give it access to your social media and e-mail, it can know basically everything about you. This week on The Vergecast, Nilay Patel, Jake Kastrenakes and David Imel give their reactions to Mark Zuckerberg's demos at Wednesday's Meta Connect keynote. They also talk about the new glasses hardware, including the new VR glasses and audio-only, camera-free Ray-Bans.&lt;br&gt;Then, we take a look at the newly-announced, chimeric Chrome/Android hybrid Googlebooks, find out why Brendan Carr is a dummy this week, analyze the Paramount merger, discuss what YouTube's A/B video testing means for the increasingly tenuous concept of a shared reality, and end on a surprisingly heartwarming story about RODECaster 4K support.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/999593/meta-connect-2026-everything-announced"&gt;Meta Connect 2026: The 7 biggest announcements&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/998457/meta-connect-2026-live-blog-mark-zuckerberg-keynote"&gt;Meta Connect 2026 live blog: On the ground at Mark Zuckerberg’s next big product launch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/993391/meta-muse-ai-hands-on"&gt;Meta’s Muse AI works and creeps me out&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/998078/amazon-blocks-meta-muse-ai-agent-shopping"&gt;Amazon blocks Meta’s Muse AI agent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/999281/ray-ban-meta-audio-glasses-meta-connect-2026"&gt;Meta ditches the camera on its newest smart glasses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/999517/meta-vr-glasses-connect-2026-hands-on"&gt;Meta’s next VR device isn’t a headset — it’s glasses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/997659/googlebooks-breakdown-acer-asus-hp-lenovo-dell"&gt;These are the first five Googlebook laptops&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/998095/googlebook-laptop-android-continue-on-app-cast"&gt;Googlebooks feel like the first laptops built for Android owners&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/997986/google-googlebooks-android-laptops-dell-hp-lenovo-acer-asus-price-specs"&gt;I got to see Google’s wild ideas about the future of laptops&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/997972/googlebook-laptop-chromeos-android-history"&gt;The long dream of the Googlebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://deadline.com/2026/09/mahershala-ali-blade-kevin-feige-failure-1237110782/"&gt;Mahershala Ali On ‘Blade’ Being A Big Failure For Kevin Feige: “100%. He Should Feel That Way”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/999056/paramount-warner-bros-discovery-merger-annual-film-quota-guardrails"&gt;Paramount will need to release way more movies to make this merger work&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/games/998758/xbox-activision-blizzard"&gt;Xbox is barely Xbox anymore&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/streaming/999805/youtube-new-live-features-2027"&gt;YouTube is cooking up new Live features.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1000019/free-rodecaster-video-firmware-update-adds-4k-support"&gt;Free Rodecaster Video firmware update adds 4K support.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;0:00&amp;nbsp;Welcome Back Banter&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;00:31&amp;nbsp;Meta Connect Setup&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:27&amp;nbsp;Muse First Impressions&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;05:28&amp;nbsp;Privacy Trust Gap&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;07:58&amp;nbsp;Pervert Glasses Debate&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;12:55&amp;nbsp;Passive Surveillance Reality&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;15:42&amp;nbsp;Is Muse Actually Winning&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;18:44&amp;nbsp;Muse Charm Post Phone&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;21:38&amp;nbsp;Do We Need Agents&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;26:12&amp;nbsp;Break And Return&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;26:29&amp;nbsp;New Meta Hardware&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;27:00&amp;nbsp;Audio Only Ray Bans&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;28:30&amp;nbsp;Muse Powered Glasses&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;31:15&amp;nbsp;Meta Bets on Muse&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;32:28&amp;nbsp;Hearing Aid Glasses Pitch&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;34:40&amp;nbsp;VR Glasses Return&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;39:04&amp;nbsp;Holograms and Splats&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;42:44&amp;nbsp;Google Books Arrive&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;44:57&amp;nbsp;Android Laptop Lock In&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;47:49&amp;nbsp;Windows Fatigue Debate&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;54:54&amp;nbsp;Hype Desk Blade Drama&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;57:14&amp;nbsp;Remembering Blade Chaos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:00:37&amp;nbsp;Blade Reboot Frustrations&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:01:26&amp;nbsp;Sonos Sponsor Break&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:03:07&amp;nbsp;Brendan Carr is a Dummy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:07:38&amp;nbsp;Lightning Round Kickoff&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:08:02&amp;nbsp;Meta Muse Mascot Chaos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:09:26&amp;nbsp;Paramount Warner Deal Fallout&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:12:37&amp;nbsp;YouTube AI Channel Agents&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:14:05&amp;nbsp;A B Video Testing Ethics&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:21:25&amp;nbsp;Xbox Layoffs And Halo Shift&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:24:45&amp;nbsp;Rodecaster Free 4K Update&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:26:36&amp;nbsp;Muse Marketplace Haggling&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:27:35&amp;nbsp;Wrap Up And Next Episodes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f01f73ad07275534079b9c4f39cd50db2ce64005efd73dd52b32046448d86fbc</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20260925-172400-Vergecast.mp3" length="134471901" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 17:24:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>5594</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20260925-172400-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20260925-172400-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>Dots get up in Muse's business</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Is the key to turning around public opinion on AI Super Intelligence just to make it cuter? Nilay Patel, Jake Kastrenakes and David Imel talk about the latest adorable agents that want access to all your data, then discuss whether this week's White House AI Super Intelligence accord is worth the paper it's written on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plus: Gadgets, gadgets, gadgets! We speculate on Apple's rumored October 13 announcement, drool over Huawei's camera for your cameraphone, and herald the return of physical buttons in the new Kindle cases.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We wrap things up with the usual Brendan Carr is a Dummy and a lightning round full of Cybercabs, data centers, 'Old Reddit' and government chatbots.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Vote for us in the Signal Awards!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1002033/openai-dots-launch-muse-competitor"&gt;OpenAI launches Dots, its Muse competitor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1002494/openai-plans-to-bring-dots-to-consumers-too"&gt;OpenAI plans to bring Dots to consumers, too.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1001886/meta-muse-ai-facebook-marketplace-security-concerns"&gt;Meta’s Muse AI sent a YouTuber’s address to a stranger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1001200/maybe-dont-let-muse-run-your-facebook-marketplace-account"&gt;Maybe don’t let Muse run your Facebook Marketplace account.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1002505/sam-altman-openai-ipo-devday-ai-safety"&gt;Sam Altman says OpenAI won’t go public until its models are safe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1002980/google-gemini-4-argon"&gt;Google announces Gemini 4 and says it’s so capable that only ‘trusted cyber defenders’ can have it right now&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1002238/openai-google-anthropic-ai-researchers-safety-interviews"&gt;AI researchers put out videos saying superintelligence is ‘exactly as dangerous as it sounds’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1002584/trump-us-ai-safety-deal-self-regulation-tech-execs"&gt;Here’s how tech leaders will self-police AI safety under Trump’s deal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1002636/ai-execs-trump-self-policing-deal-comments"&gt;Here’s what AI leaders are saying about Trump’s new safety plan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1002474/trump-youre-going-to-see-data-centers-are-going-to-be-very-popular"&gt;Trump: “You’re going to see — data centers are going to be very popular.”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/1002468/trump-ai-superintelligence-executive-order-ai"&gt;Trump orders US government to call AI ‘Super Intelligence’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/1003196/huawei-mate-90-pro-max-ruiying-z10-camera"&gt;Huawei made a whole camera to attach to its latest phone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1002811/amazon-kindle-paperwhite-colorsoft-accessory-refresh"&gt;Amazon is launching colorful new Kindles — and a case with physical page-turn buttons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/1002563/apple-smart-home-hub-homepad-rumor-launch-date"&gt;Apple’s ‘HomePad’ will reportedly launch on October 13th&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;NBC News: &lt;a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/fcc-brendan-carr-says-government-funded-trump-ads-dont-raise-red-flags-rcna600724?link_source=ta_bluesky_link&amp;amp;taid=6abe2f2caa92170001cbecc4&amp;amp;utm_campaign=trueanthem&amp;amp;utm_medium=social&amp;amp;utm_source=bluesky"&gt;FCC head says government-funded Trump ads are ‘normal’ and ‘don’t raise any red flags’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/cs/features/993343/stratos-utah-kevin-oleary-data-center-backlash"&gt;The People of Utah vs. Kevin O’Leary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/10/24267132/tesla-robotaxi-we-robot-autonomous-fsd-elon-musk"&gt;Tesla’s Cybercab robotaxi rollout: the biggest news and announcements&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1002018/the-white-house-launched-an-ai-chatbot-for-government-related-questions"&gt;The White House launched an AI chatbot for government-related questions.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1002788/old-reddit-ai-scraping"&gt;Reddit says it has to cut back access to ‘Old Reddit’ because of AI bots&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;0:00 Welcome&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;00:52 Awards and Listener Voting&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:36 Week Ahead Preview&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:52 OpenAI Dots vs Meta Muse&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;06:09 Living as Tasks&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;19:47 Business Models and Privacy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;23:41 Bot Traffic and Web Friction&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;27:48 Trump Superintelligence Accord&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;37:46 Gadget Segment Kickoff&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;38:26 Huawei Screw On Lens Camera&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;41:33 Why Phone Camera Hybrids Fail&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;44:09 Pricey Phone Lens Debate&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;45:31 Kindle Lineup Upgrades&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;48:49 Apple Smart Home Display Rumors&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:02:58 Brendan Carr is a Dummy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:08:27 America Gov Chatbot&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:14:54 Old Reddit Bot Crackdown&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:19:30 Utah Data Center Blowup&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:25:17 Cybercab Ride Report&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:27:31 Wrap Up And Plugs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">1808e962327dc157fe6ac428d5e056284af7b71bc0d7aa75be9eac93575b1bbd</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20261002-144400-Vergecast.mp3" length="133433444" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2026 14:44:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>5550</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20261002-144400-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20261002-144400-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>The AI is in the computer</title><description>&lt;p&gt;It's gadget season. More specifically, it's apparently "new computer for your new AI" season. David and Nilay talk through a slew of announcements — Amazon's Alexa Tablets, Microsoft's Surface Laptop Ultra, the new Googlebooks, and Apple's upcoming smart home launch — to figure out if anyone has the right idea about the future of computing, and where the AI is supposed to live. After that, it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, our thoughts on the Paramount / Warner / Skydance merger, and much more.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Read more about the topics discussed in today's 1 hour, 41 minute podcast:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1007648/amazon-alexa-tablets-price-specs"&gt;⁠Amazon’s Alexa Tablets are powerful, impressive, and designed to take on iPad&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1007473/amazon-alexa-tablet-12-pro-nanomatte-hands-on"&gt;⁠Hands-on with Amazon’s Alexa Tablet 12 Pro and its wild new matte display&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1008059/amazon-phasing-out-fire-tablet-panos-panay"&gt;⁠Amazon is phasing out Fire Tablets because they weren’t ‘giving customers what they were asking for⁠&lt;/a&gt;’&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1007768/amazon-kids-tablet-android-kid-proof-case-google-play"&gt;⁠Amazon’s new Kids Tablets let parents manage access to the Google Play store &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/1008039/apple-smart-home-event-october-13th"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;Apple announces surprise ‘Welcome home’ launch event&lt;/u&gt;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/1006238/apple-lg-homekit-rumor-fcc"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;Apple and LG team up on new smart home gear, starting with a lock, doorbell, and thermostat&lt;/u&gt;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1006727/apple-lg-leak-smart-home-deadbolt-lock-thermostat-temperature-sensor"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;New leaks provide our first look at Apple and LG’s smart home devices &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1007147/microsoft-surface-laptop-ultra-windows-event-everything-announced"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;Everything announced at Microsoft’s Surface Laptop Ultra event&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/1006378/microsoft-surface-laptop-ultra-pricing-release-date"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;The Surface Laptop Ultra finally has a release date — and a starting price of $2,599&lt;/u&gt;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/1006445/microsofts-surface-laptop-ultra-has-built-in-magnetic-usb-c-charging"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;Microsoft’s Surface Laptop Ultra has built-in magnetic USB-C charging&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1006356/microsoft-surface-laptop-ultra-behind-the-scenes"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;How Microsoft built its MacBook Pro competitor&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1006915/microsoft-surface-rtx-spark-dev-box-preorder"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;Surface RTX Spark Dev Box is available for preorder for $5,999&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/1007040/nvidias-powerful-rtx-spark-laptops-can-cost-up-to-7000"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;The first Nvidia RTX Spark laptops cost up to $7,000&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;⁠&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1007113/microsoft-windows-copilot-ai-control-search-hybrid-intelligence"&gt;⁠&lt;u&gt;Microsoft is giving Copilot more control over Windows and your files &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1005745/google-googlebook-android-laptops-dell-acer-asus-lenovo-hp-impressions"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Our first five impressions of Googlebooks — exciting but underbaked&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1007409/androids-physical-navigation-buttons-are-back-on-googlebooks-but-not-the-way-you-think"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Android’s physical navigation buttons are back on Googlebooks, but not the way you think&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1004643/google-android-apps-intel-googlebooks-performance"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Google admits not every Android app runs great on Intel Googlebooks&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Politico: &lt;a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/10/06/abcs-license-fight-threatens-to-reshape-trump-coverage-01109399"&gt;‘Head on a guillotine’: ABC says Trump’s threats are already swaying coverage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1007276/openai-chatgpt-intelligent-ui-gpt-6"&gt;&lt;u&gt;ChatGPT’s ‘Intelligent UI’ update fills its responses with pictures, charts, and buttons&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/1005480/paramount-warner-bros-discovey-merger-closed"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Paramount and Warner Bros. Discovery complete $110 billion media megamerger&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/1005696/hbo-max-paramout-plus-merge-skydance"&gt;&lt;u&gt;HBO Max and Paramount Plus will merge into a single streamer under Skydance&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/1004734/cnn-ceo-mark-thompson-paramount-warner-bros"&gt;&lt;u&gt;CNN’s boss will remain as Paramount and WBD merge into Skydance&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/1006852/skydance-is-merging-paramount-and-warner-bros-discoverys-games-teams"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Skydance is merging Paramount and Warner Bros. Discovery’s games teams.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1004811/openai-altman-bad-things-ai-tradeoff"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Sam Altman says ‘some bad things’ will happen, but AI is totally worth it &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;0:00 Cold Open
00:37 David’s back!
01:10 Parenting Chaos Update
02:49 Gadget News Rundown
03:47 New Amazon Alexa Tablets
05:15 Panos Strategy Shift
06:31 Play Store Bet
11:17 Default Android Tablet
13:18 Ads and Pricing Fears
15:30 Amazon Great Products
21:20 Matte Display Debate
25:01 Apple Smart Home Tease
26:12 Siri AI Reality Check
29:08 Smart Home Too Complex
33:37 Candy Crush Question
34:56 iPad Multiuser Problem
39:04 Microsoft AI Surface Push
40:35 Local AI Computing Shift
47:22 Magnetic USB C Charging
48:37 Google Book Laptop Confusion
54:20 AI Agents Need A Surface
58:50 Skepticism About Agents
01:07:46 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:09:23 ABC License Chilling Effect
01:11:24 Brendan Carr Ownership Cap
01:12:30 Cable Companies Sue Back
01:14:44 SXSW Corruption Game
01:15:50 Skydance Mega Merger
01:18:04 Debt Layoffs Streamer Cuts
01:22:58 Go90 Scale Returns
01:24:02 Netflix Loses Its Edge
01:30:44 ChatGPT Interactive UI
01:37:47 Sam Altman Tradeoffs
01:44:49 Wrap Up And Plugs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">5a2e5f5483bc1f3a949dbc5510af2f17d5a385df513200519bee4ce35d658e15</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20261009-133800-Vergecast.mp3" length="158813073" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2026 13:38:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>6607</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20261009-133800-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20261009-133800-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>Is X back?</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Well, it's been a couple of days, and David and Nilay have some more information — and a bunch of new questions — about the Apple HomeView. They also talk about the latest Gemini model, and whether building the best model matters if you can't build the best products around them. They then debate the merits of returning to X, why none of the supposed Twitter replacements worked, the latest in Brendan Carr nonsense, and more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1011062/apple-homeview-airplay-apps-streaming"&gt;HomeView doesn’t natively support any video apps yet — not even Apple’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/1011069/apple-tv-remote-find-my"&gt;Apple’s new Find My-compatible remote will also work with your old Apple TV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1011311/the-ai-race-is-back-on"&gt;The AI race is back on &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1009862/google-releases-gemini-4-argon"&gt;Google finally releases Gemini 4 Argon &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1010415/google-antigravity-gemini-app-mac"&gt;Google brings its AI coding platform to its Gemini app on Mac. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1009066/google-play-vibe-coded-android-apps-launch"&gt;Google makes it easier to launch your vibe-coded apps &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/1010642/openai-employee-arrested-recording-device"&gt;OpenAI employee arrested for allegedly planting a bug in a conference room &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1011276/openai-employee-unreleased-product-plans"&gt;OpenAI claims an ex-employee took its product plans and presented them to Apple &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/1011417/new-york-ag-characterai-bankruptcy"&gt;Now that Character.AI is going bankrupt, what happens to all of its users’ data? &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Daring Fireball: &lt;a href="https://daringfireball.net/2026/10/x_once_again_marks_the_spot"&gt;X Once Again Marks the Spot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Platformer: &lt;a href="https://www.platformer.news/does-intelligence-need-a-hard-cap/"&gt;Does intelligence need a hard cap?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/science/1008467/spacex-announces-plan-to-become-a-major-mobile-carrier"&gt;SpaceX announces plan to become a ‘major mobile carrier’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1010962/jpmorgan-chase-is-keeping-ai-agents-out"&gt;JPMorgan Chase is keeping AI agents out. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/1010406/xbox-labs-game-decompiling-emulation-exploration"&gt;Xbox is officially embracing the chaos of AI-powered game ports &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/1009588/global-smartphone-sales-just-hit-a-14-year-low"&gt;Global smartphone sales just hit a 14-year low. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1009406/silicon-valley-is-falling-in-line-with-trumps-attempt-to-rename-ai"&gt;Silicon Valley is falling in line with Trump’s attempt to rename AI &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/1010503/the-government-launched-a-super-intelligence-website"&gt;The US government launched a “Super Intelligence” website.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;0:00 CarPlay Banter&lt;br&gt;01:36 HomeView App Confusion&lt;br&gt;03:40 CarPlay as Home OS&lt;br&gt;08:31 Apple Hardware Software Bet&lt;br&gt;13:28 Should It Just Be an iPad?&lt;br&gt;14:31 Gemini 4 Returns&lt;br&gt;16:18 Meta Muse Strategy&lt;br&gt;19:54 Google Product Dilemma&lt;br&gt;26:28 OpenAI Bugging Scandal&lt;br&gt;29:49 Character AI Bankruptcy&lt;br&gt;32:31 Bankrupt Data Goldmine&lt;br&gt;33:00 Privacy After Shutdown&lt;br&gt;36:55 Why People Return to X&lt;br&gt;39:35 Threads Fumbled It&lt;br&gt;40:49 X Owns AI Talk&lt;br&gt;49:17 Who Should Use X&lt;br&gt;49:57 Reporters And Sources&lt;br&gt;53:00 Video Platforms Win&lt;br&gt;54:44 Gruber Gets It Wrong&lt;br&gt;01:01:29 Brendan Carr is a Dummy&lt;br&gt;01:02:40 Execution Livestream Fallout&lt;br&gt;01:07:21 Sprint Merger Fallout&lt;br&gt;01:08:48 Dish Spectrum to SpaceX&lt;br&gt;01:09:44 Can Starlink Compete&lt;br&gt;01:11:30 SpaceX Phone Rumors&lt;br&gt;01:13:55 Smartphone Sales Slump&lt;br&gt;01:18:37 Agents vs Websites&lt;br&gt;01:24:21 Why UI Still Matters&lt;br&gt;01:26:43 Super Intelligence Rebrand&lt;br&gt;01:30:37 AI Game Decompiling&lt;br&gt;01:36:35 Wrap Up and Plugs&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">9f4ffed2f9c0e8584768b6bf9699674a98a472d3c6c0a9089c7f58fa27ad9c25</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20261016-152300-Vergecast.mp3" length="145143956" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2026 15:23:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>6038</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20261016-152300-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20261016-152300-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>The iPhone Duo should have been an iPad</title><description>&lt;p&gt;We gave the iPhone Duo a 7 /10. But that wasn’t always the score we planned, and it might not be the right score forever. Such are the challenges of reviewing — and assessing — a big, new idea about the most popular smartphone in history.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On this episode of &lt;em&gt;The Vergecast&lt;/em&gt;, David and Nilay debate whether the Duo deserved the score it got, and try to work through how this device might change over time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After that, the hosts talk about the huge PHP cybersecurity flaw that rocked the web this week, the ongoing increase in AI shopping, an impending reboot inside of Netflix, and some very confusing Gemini news. Also, Brendan Carr is a Dummy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1015028/iphone-duo-review"&gt;The iPhone Duo is a messy, expensive, good time&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1010131/apple-iphone-duo-news-announcements"&gt;All the news about the iPhone Duo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Daring Fireball: &lt;a href="https://daringfireball.net/2026/10/the_iphone_duo"&gt;The iPhone Duo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1016574/php2shell-security-vulnerability-websites-down"&gt;PHP: The three little letters wreaking havoc across the web&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/1015811/ai-shopping-agents-blocked-amazon-the-realreal-target-meta-muse"&gt;AI agents are ready to shop. Some retailers are wary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1015715/walmart-ai-shopping-agents"&gt;Walmart is inviting AI agents to shop for you&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1016029/10-million-people-have-already-set-up-muse-agents"&gt;10 million people have already set up Muse agents.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/streaming/1014826/netflix-earnings-q3-2026-viewing-time"&gt;Netflix is telling investors not to worry, even though you’re watching less and less&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1014999/google-gemini-ai-cars-android-auto"&gt;Google’s more personalized Gemini AI is heading to your car&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;0:00&amp;nbsp;No Sevens Pact&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:03&amp;nbsp;Show Agenda Setup&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:46&amp;nbsp;Duo Score Debate&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;03:08&amp;nbsp;App Optimization Phases&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;07:47&amp;nbsp;Two Thousand Dollar Problem&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;10:44&amp;nbsp;iPad Not iPhone&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;14:41&amp;nbsp;Outer Screen Compromises&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;18:04&amp;nbsp;Developer Badges Future&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;20:34&amp;nbsp;Early Adopter Reality&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;30:19&amp;nbsp;Handoff eSIM Limitations&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;34:49&amp;nbsp;PHP Shell Chaos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;36:17&amp;nbsp;PHP Under the Hood&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;37:46&amp;nbsp;AI Finds the Exploit&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;40:46&amp;nbsp;Disclosure Panic Fallout&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;42:44&amp;nbsp;Patch Now or Go Dark&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;45:58&amp;nbsp;Autonomous Defense Arms Race&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;48:42&amp;nbsp;Agents Break the Web&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;53:04&amp;nbsp;Muse Adoption Shopping Stats&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;54:11&amp;nbsp;Bots Buying Movie Tickets&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:01:05&amp;nbsp;Instagram Deepfake Crisis&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:07:30&amp;nbsp;Brendan Carr is a Dummy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:10:06&amp;nbsp;FCC Threatens Poll Coverage&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:17:44&amp;nbsp;FCC Free Speech Alarm&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:20:20&amp;nbsp;The Lightning Round&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:20:49&amp;nbsp;Arc Browser Shutdown&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:23:12&amp;nbsp;AI Browsers Future&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:27:14&amp;nbsp;Meta Terms Backlash&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:34:04&amp;nbsp;Netflix Identity Crisis&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:43:16&amp;nbsp;Gemini Confusion Car&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:49:12&amp;nbsp;Wrap Up And Awards&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">28a0f1356eb3b96524bdb12f21e7fb10dc93d0c3082b022497eac7d645423aa9</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20261023-155500-Vergecast.mp3" length="164238617" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2026 15:55:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>6833</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20261023-155500-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20261023-155500-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item><item><title>The delightfully messy state of Apple gadgets</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Nilay is going to buy the new touchscreen MacBook. But not for the touchscreen. He and David talk through Apple's new laptop, and what it means for Apple's other devices, including the tablet that used to be the future of everything. Then the hosts talk about Instagram's push into long-form video and its battle with AI content. Finally, it's time for Brendan Carr, Anthropic's S-1, robot vacuums, and the rest of the lightning round.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further reading:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/report/1022013/apple-touchscreen-macbook-pro-toaster-refrigerator"&gt;Apple finally combined a toaster and a refrigerator&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1017932/hands-on-ipad-mini-8th-generation-pro-and-tell"&gt;Hands-on with the new OLED iPad Mini&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1020806/instagram-long-form-video-creator-monetization"&gt;Instagram doesn’t have a plan to pay long-form video creators&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1021644/adam-mosseri-instagram-ai-negativity"&gt;Adam Mosseri says negativity around AI is ‘going to get worse’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/29/arts/ai-bots-jokes-theft-comedians.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share"&gt;Invasion of the Sexy A.I. Joke Thieves&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/1021165/fcc-brendan-carr-prison-phone-jamming"&gt;Brendan Carr plans to let prisons jam cellphone signals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1018738/anthropic-ipo-s1-filing-weird-details"&gt;Five weird details from Anthropic’s IPO filing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1021143/microsoft-lg-samsung-copilot-ai-assistant-smart-tvs-ending"&gt;Microsoft is ending Copilot support on smart TVs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/1020811/alphabet-google-earnings-q3-2026"&gt;Google says its investments in AI are driving more searches&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/1019274/anduril-qualcomm-bluechip-laptops-american-made-military"&gt;Palmer Luckey’s Anduril is getting into laptops — and claims they’ll be American-made&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;0:00&amp;nbsp;ProLED Cold Open&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:04&amp;nbsp;Touchscreen Mac Arrives&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;02:39&amp;nbsp;Why Apple Did Touch&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;05:27&amp;nbsp;App Store Pressure&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;07:54&amp;nbsp;Touch Is Just Enough&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;09:49&amp;nbsp;Influencer Event Demos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;13:56&amp;nbsp;iPad Squeezed Middle&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;18:34&amp;nbsp;Luxury Hardware Bet&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;22:37&amp;nbsp;Duo Reality Check&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;28:18&amp;nbsp;Instagram Going Through It&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;29:07&amp;nbsp;AI Agents vs Ads&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;32:18&amp;nbsp;Zuck Escapes iPhone&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;32:41&amp;nbsp;Instagram Becomes TV&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;33:23&amp;nbsp;Slop Meme Deepfakes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;36:09&amp;nbsp;Mosseri AI Crisis&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;42:58&amp;nbsp;Longform Video Push&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;44:34&amp;nbsp;Creators Demand Revshare&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;48:19&amp;nbsp;Loop Closing Arms Race&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;49:34&amp;nbsp;Reddit Versus Google Zero&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;53:22&amp;nbsp;AI Kills The Web&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:00:20&amp;nbsp;Brendan Carr is a Dummy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:02:22&amp;nbsp;Spectrum Auction Plan&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:03:35&amp;nbsp;NOAA Weather Spectrum Fight&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:04:29&amp;nbsp;700 MHz Auction History&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:05:38&amp;nbsp;FCC Spectrum Power Grab&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:06:09&amp;nbsp;Privatizing Weather Data&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:09:27&amp;nbsp;Anthropic S1 Reality Check&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:12:34&amp;nbsp;AI Products Beat Models&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:16:55&amp;nbsp;Claude Goes Sentient&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:17:55&amp;nbsp;Copilot Leaves Smart TVs&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:21:16&amp;nbsp;Quiet Robot Vacuum Thoughts&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:25:03&amp;nbsp;Palmer Luckey Laptop Fight&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:30:10&amp;nbsp;X Replies and Racism&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;01:32:32&amp;nbsp;Wrap Up and Next Week&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Learn more about your ad choices. Visit &lt;a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"&gt;podcastchoices.com/adchoices&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">cd38078e5cb32bf3b73b4fe78e342fa7a98cd5a93abf622e25ab450d1a08abca</guid><enclosure url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/episodes/20261030-161600-Vergecast.mp3" length="141446622" type="audio/mpeg" /><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 16:16:00 -0500</pubDate><itunes:duration>5884</itunes:duration><podcast:transcript url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/transcripts/20261030-161600-Vergecast.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions" /><podcast:chapters url="https://podcast.christenson.cloud/vergecast/chapters/20261030-161600-Vergecast.json" type="application/json+chapters" /></item></channel></rss>